Europe has finally been united due to the czech signing of the lisbon treaty.It will lead to the election of a president of european union and the nomination of a foreign minister.Bible prophecy accomplished.Does this not sound familiar for all the sleepers its a wake up call.I am not sure but i see in the near future the rising of the antichrist and his false prophet.can someone help wit a better inside?

"Bible prophecy accomplished"


where in the Bible a prophecy says that?


As far as I know, there is no prophecy that says that, and also:


2 Thessalonians 2
1Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.



and also, we are in the last days since 2000 years ago:
James 5:3 (New International Version)
3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days.





so,anyway, show me EXPLICITLY that a prophecy says that and I'll believe you, if not, then THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK that the prophecies say.

in the Bible, only great prophets had the ability to interprete prophecies or dreams, ARE YOU A GREAT PROPHET?


blessings

WELL MAX thanks for your contribution i will not start an argument here nor do i consider myself for a Great prophet i am not.I am just one who seeks to learn.i have also come to understand that you know much of the Bible even more than i do and i bless God for you but better you know and learn today you can not know every thing and your brother can bring you that understanding.We are a body Rom 12:5"So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. we cannot also know all things for all you do not know someone else can bring it to Co 12:16" And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?"The fact that you do not know should or understand should not give you grounds to judge others.i am not the one who brought this up i searched the web and in my heart i am convinced that we are going towards the end and that things are being put in place.
I am not saying Jesus has already come nor did i give a date for His coming.As yourself am waiting for His coming all i said is things are being put in place for this i only am urging us to rise up cos we have been sleeping least He comes and find us sleeping.

Now Bible prophecy comes in a funny way,only those whom God has given the grace to understand will.In the old Testament where was it clearly written about the Lord or events of Him in a single passage?they were all taking from different books and authors to confirm the passages.So if you expect the Bible to tell you in a single book or passage then you have missed it all. Now if i look at the Lisbon treaty as an event the Bible talked about and which is being accomplished,do i discredit God or i give Him the glory that indeed He is God and His word is true?


i am not here to turn people away from God but to encourage them that they can trust the Bible for its true?


Max we are closer to Jesus's coming than ever before

22Pe 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Pe 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

the signs are there for us to see and know and these signs are evident

about the Lisbon treaty and the european union and the rest it only assured me that the time for His coming is near so we must awake if we were sleeping least He comes and finds us ...to know more if you do not understand search the web brother God bless tou

1) "The fact that you do not know should or understand should not give you grounds to judge others-"

I am not judging you, I never did,
all I did was asking questions

2) "Now Bible prophecy comes in a funny way,only those whom God has given the grace to understand will"
Now if i look at the Lisbon treaty as an event the Bible talked about and which is being accomplished,do i discredit God or i give Him the glory that indeed He is God and His word is true?"



that gets me to 1 conclusion, THAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION. That is what you believe that the prophecies teach


there is no single prophecy that says that, no one at all (that EXPLICITLY says that)


don't get me wrong, I am not saying that your interpretation is completly wrong.
all I'm saying, is that it is your interpretation. So, we have to options.
Option 1: You are right (50% chances)
Option 2: You are wrong (50% chances)


you did not show any EXPLICIT verse in the Bible that says what you believe, so, as its your interpretation, its a human interpretation, and it could be wrong.



In my case, I DO NOT BELIVE YOUR INTERPRETATION.
You should not say "only those whom God has given the grace to understand will"
so, all of us in this group, and in the world, that do not agree with you: we do not have the grace of God? (please answer yes or no)



anyway, you can believe that, I respect that, and I respect you for defending what you believe. but, I do not agree with you.


so, good bye my friend

blessings

Hi Max i appreciate you.will like to say the fact that we have divergence of opinions still does not change that we believe in the same Lord,Paul and Silas,nevertheless we are Brothers in the Lord.I cannot affirm to you that i am sure of the Lisbon Treaty i only believe and share my own points that grounds are laid for the Antichrist.If its from Europe or wherever he comes God alone knows for sure. In knowledge i am lacking for we cannot know all things.

1Cor 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

if i cannot on my own give you passages which i studied myself i have decided to believe what others better than me have written.By the way all we learn and believe was written by someone else

Max why not read Daniel 2 and read what others have written on the web and then make your decision God bless you
remember we are brothers and i maybe wrong too. just as you too maybe

ok friend, completely agree with you.


you have the right to believe that, I do not believe that, but we're still brothers in Christ.


and about Daniel, I have read some studies, but I do not agree to non of them, and also, they are someone else's interpretation, so they could be wrong.


but what you should not say is: "only those whom God has given the grace to understand will"

that's not true, the fact that someone's does not has the same beliefes you do, does not mean that person does not have the grace of God.



anyway, thanks for sharing, but I do not agree.


blessings